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	Comments on: Twitter Defeats ISIS &#8220;Material Support&#8221; Lawsuit Again&#8211;Fields v. Twitter	</title>
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		By: Jason Farnon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Farnon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 22:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/twitter-defeats-isis-material-support-lawsuit-again-fields-v-twitter.htm#comment-1740&quot;&gt;Eric Goldman&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the link to the post on the SAVE act. I had not considered criminal prosecutions against a website for something like material support would run into FA problems over and beyond the FA problems a criminal prosecution against an individual would. I guess the Press freedoms would be unique to the website.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/twitter-defeats-isis-material-support-lawsuit-again-fields-v-twitter.htm#comment-1740">Eric Goldman</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the post on the SAVE act. I had not considered criminal prosecutions against a website for something like material support would run into FA problems over and beyond the FA problems a criminal prosecution against an individual would. I guess the Press freedoms would be unique to the website.</p>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 17:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/twitter-defeats-isis-material-support-lawsuit-again-fields-v-twitter.htm#comment-1739&quot;&gt;Jason Farnon&lt;/a&gt;.

Federal criminal prosecutions of these sorts would run into serious First Amendment problems; and with Backpage, there would also be serious scienter issues. https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/backpage-cant-challenge-the-save-act-backpage-v-lynch.htm]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/twitter-defeats-isis-material-support-lawsuit-again-fields-v-twitter.htm#comment-1739">Jason Farnon</a>.</p>
<p>Federal criminal prosecutions of these sorts would run into serious First Amendment problems; and with Backpage, there would also be serious scienter issues. <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/backpage-cant-challenge-the-save-act-backpage-v-lynch.htm" rel="ugc">https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/backpage-cant-challenge-the-save-act-backpage-v-lynch.htm</a></p>
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		By: Jason Farnon		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/twitter-defeats-isis-material-support-lawsuit-again-fields-v-twitter.htm#comment-1739</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Farnon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I never understood why feds don&#039;t use the federal crimes exception to cda immunity. Like in this case, I believe there is a criminal version of the material support statute that a prosecutor could have charged. 

Maybe the feds don&#039;t want to go after twitter that way. But what about all the backpage lawsuits? All those state ags/prosecutors hate backpage that much, and keep getting thwarted by 230, but they can&#039;t get their local usa to cook up some rico charges? Perhaps someone here can enlighten me. Am I misunderstanding the law? Was there an policy decision at DoJ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understood why feds don&#8217;t use the federal crimes exception to cda immunity. Like in this case, I believe there is a criminal version of the material support statute that a prosecutor could have charged. </p>
<p>Maybe the feds don&#8217;t want to go after twitter that way. But what about all the backpage lawsuits? All those state ags/prosecutors hate backpage that much, and keep getting thwarted by 230, but they can&#8217;t get their local usa to cook up some rico charges? Perhaps someone here can enlighten me. Am I misunderstanding the law? Was there an policy decision at DoJ?</p>
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		By: David S. Gingras		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/11/twitter-defeats-isis-material-support-lawsuit-again-fields-v-twitter.htm#comment-1737</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David S. Gingras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To recap the three simple options available to defense counsel:

1.) When a Complaint DOES allege sufficient facts to state a claim that&#039;s not barred by Section 230, but the alleged facts are NOT TRUE, file an Answer and an immediate Rule 56 Motion for Summary Judgment (and maybe also serve a draft Rule 11 motion).

2.) When a Complaint does NOT allege sufficient facts to state a claim, and/or it is readily apparent from the pleadings that the claim is barred by Section 230 (assuming the facts are viewed in a light most favorable to the plaintiff), then a 12(b)(6) motion is OK.

3.) When a Complaint alleges facts sufficient to state a claim that&#039;s not barred by Section 230, and the alleged facts are TRUE -- settle ASAP.

Having said that, obviously this was a Type #2 situation.  Thus, Twitter used the correct approach, and it got the correct result.

With only 40 days left in 2016, let&#039;s hope we see a few more rulings like this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To recap the three simple options available to defense counsel:</p>
<p>1.) When a Complaint DOES allege sufficient facts to state a claim that&#8217;s not barred by Section 230, but the alleged facts are NOT TRUE, file an Answer and an immediate Rule 56 Motion for Summary Judgment (and maybe also serve a draft Rule 11 motion).</p>
<p>2.) When a Complaint does NOT allege sufficient facts to state a claim, and/or it is readily apparent from the pleadings that the claim is barred by Section 230 (assuming the facts are viewed in a light most favorable to the plaintiff), then a 12(b)(6) motion is OK.</p>
<p>3.) When a Complaint alleges facts sufficient to state a claim that&#8217;s not barred by Section 230, and the alleged facts are TRUE &#8212; settle ASAP.</p>
<p>Having said that, obviously this was a Type #2 situation.  Thus, Twitter used the correct approach, and it got the correct result.</p>
<p>With only 40 days left in 2016, let&#8217;s hope we see a few more rulings like this.</p>
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