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	Comments on: Ninth Circuit Does More Damage to Section 230&#8211;Calise v. Meta	</title>
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		By: Court Revives Lawsuit Against Facebook Over Scammy Crypto Ads-Forrest v. Meta - Technology &#38; Marketing Law Blog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The court should have stopped there. Instead, we get this passage (with cites to Calise v. Meta): [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The court should have stopped there. Instead, we get this passage (with cites to Calise v. Meta): [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2024 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Definition of publisher used to be so simple. You help publish something? Publisher. Only exceptions were for people whose involvement gave them no opportunity to know what was being published. Distributor as a legal concept was conceived in that wild wacky world where truth was suddenly an absolute defense to defamation, but the first amendment started blocking lawsuits against third-parties before the common law could catch up. The whole concept was needed because the common law considered them publishers, in order to limit liability, not add it. I&#x27;m now convinced this opinion is what caused my migraine last week, even though I only just found out about it.

And stratton oakmont, ugh. Even if you forgive the ruling&#x27;s treatment of Anderson, the basic theory of publisher liability it presents is already completely backwards.

As for the duty, I think it got halfway to something that might have made sense if it was fully ruined by pretending it&#x27;s not a publishing decision? Like, sure, a law that is otherwise constitutional can impose a duty, in narrow circumstances, to inspect third-party content. This will typically have to be triggered by certain voluntary non-expressive conduct by the bearer of the duty.

But I think the only just interpretation of 230 wrt contracts is that no defendant can be treated as having waived the law&#x27;s protections, or their own editorial freedom, unless they had promised something so specific that a waiver is implied, at least in that regard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definition of publisher used to be so simple. You help publish something? Publisher. Only exceptions were for people whose involvement gave them no opportunity to know what was being published. Distributor as a legal concept was conceived in that wild wacky world where truth was suddenly an absolute defense to defamation, but the first amendment started blocking lawsuits against third-parties before the common law could catch up. The whole concept was needed because the common law considered them publishers, in order to limit liability, not add it. I&#x27;m now convinced this opinion is what caused my migraine last week, even though I only just found out about it.</p>
<p>And stratton oakmont, ugh. Even if you forgive the ruling&#x27;s treatment of Anderson, the basic theory of publisher liability it presents is already completely backwards.</p>
<p>As for the duty, I think it got halfway to something that might have made sense if it was fully ruined by pretending it&#x27;s not a publishing decision? Like, sure, a law that is otherwise constitutional can impose a duty, in narrow circumstances, to inspect third-party content. This will typically have to be triggered by certain voluntary non-expressive conduct by the bearer of the duty.</p>
<p>But I think the only just interpretation of 230 wrt contracts is that no defendant can be treated as having waived the law&#x27;s protections, or their own editorial freedom, unless they had promised something so specific that a waiver is implied, at least in that regard.</p>
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