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	Comments on: Internet Access Providers Can Be Contributorily Liable for Subscribers&#8217; Infringements&#8211;Sony Music v. Cox	</title>
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		By: Atallah Aflaq (عطا الله عفلق)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 16:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2024/02/internet-access-providers-can-be-contributorily-liable-for-subscribers-infringements-sony-music-v-cox.htm#comment-4128&quot;&gt;Eric Goldman&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting. I told my (engineering) students to avoid the term IAP because of obsolescence. I tell them that a cable service must be evaluated according to the technological specification of the service to determine whether the service is a service of common carriage. 

A state may make try to create its own separate definition of cable service. A cable service could then be regulated separately from other communications common carriage services if the cable service is a communications common carriage service. 

A Massachusetts Court, for example, would look at each cable service individually and decide as a matter of law whether Massachusetts common carriage law applied to an specific type of cable service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2024/02/internet-access-providers-can-be-contributorily-liable-for-subscribers-infringements-sony-music-v-cox.htm#comment-4128">Eric Goldman</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting. I told my (engineering) students to avoid the term IAP because of obsolescence. I tell them that a cable service must be evaluated according to the technological specification of the service to determine whether the service is a service of common carriage. </p>
<p>A state may make try to create its own separate definition of cable service. A cable service could then be regulated separately from other communications common carriage services if the cable service is a communications common carriage service. </p>
<p>A Massachusetts Court, for example, would look at each cable service individually and decide as a matter of law whether Massachusetts common carriage law applied to an specific type of cable service.</p>
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		By: Atallah Aflaq (عطا الله عفلق)		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why didn&#039;t the lawyer for Cox argue that Cox was a communications common carrier [47 U.S. Code § 153 (11) Common carrier] even if Cox is not a telecommunications common carrier [47 U.S. Code § 153 (51) Telecommunications carrier]?

The FCC does not define a service to be a common carriage service. The common law definition of common carriage determines whether a service is common  carriage. The FCC decides whether a communications-related common carriage service is a telecommunications service that the FCC should regulate.

FedEx is not responsible if a customer pays FedEx to carry a bootleg copyright-infringing copy of a book to a destination address. 

Cox seems to be a victim of a lawyer that understood neither Title 47 nor the law of common carriage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t the lawyer for Cox argue that Cox was a communications common carrier [47 U.S. Code § 153 (11) Common carrier] even if Cox is not a telecommunications common carrier [47 U.S. Code § 153 (51) Telecommunications carrier]?</p>
<p>The FCC does not define a service to be a common carriage service. The common law definition of common carriage determines whether a service is common  carriage. The FCC decides whether a communications-related common carriage service is a telecommunications service that the FCC should regulate.</p>
<p>FedEx is not responsible if a customer pays FedEx to carry a bootleg copyright-infringing copy of a book to a destination address. </p>
<p>Cox seems to be a victim of a lawyer that understood neither Title 47 nor the law of common carriage.</p>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2024/02/internet-access-providers-can-be-contributorily-liable-for-subscribers-infringements-sony-music-v-cox.htm#comment-4127&quot;&gt;Atallah Aflaq (عطا الله عفلق)&lt;/a&gt;.

I ban my students from using the term &quot;ISP&quot; because of its semantic ambiguity]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2024/02/internet-access-providers-can-be-contributorily-liable-for-subscribers-infringements-sony-music-v-cox.htm#comment-4127">Atallah Aflaq (عطا الله عفلق)</a>.</p>
<p>I ban my students from using the term &#8220;ISP&#8221; because of its semantic ambiguity</p>
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		By: Atallah Aflaq (عطا الله عفلق)		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Feb 2024 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[IAP (Internet Access Provider) is an old-fashioned term. I am surprised to learn that it is still used.

An Internet Access Provider is a company that provides access to the Internet. IAPs generally provide dial-up access through a modem and PPP connection, though companies that offer Internet access with other devices, such as cable modems or wireless connections, could also be considered IAPs.

The terms IAPs and ISP (Internet Service Providers) are often used interchangeably, though some people consider IAPs to be a subset of ISPs. Whereas IAPs offer only Internet access, ISPs may provide additional services, such as leased lines (T-1 or T-3) and Web development. In contrast to both IAPs and ISPs, online services provide their own proprietary content in addition to Internet access.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IAP (Internet Access Provider) is an old-fashioned term. I am surprised to learn that it is still used.</p>
<p>An Internet Access Provider is a company that provides access to the Internet. IAPs generally provide dial-up access through a modem and PPP connection, though companies that offer Internet access with other devices, such as cable modems or wireless connections, could also be considered IAPs.</p>
<p>The terms IAPs and ISP (Internet Service Providers) are often used interchangeably, though some people consider IAPs to be a subset of ISPs. Whereas IAPs offer only Internet access, ISPs may provide additional services, such as leased lines (T-1 or T-3) and Web development. In contrast to both IAPs and ISPs, online services provide their own proprietary content in addition to Internet access.</p>
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