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	Comments on: Ripoff Report Gets a Pricey Lesson on Section 230&#8211;Selker v. Xcentric	</title>
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		By: Bill Silverstein		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Silverstein]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m really surprised that a judge ordered attorney fees on a remand.  One, remanded on a similar basis (but under the Airlines Deregulation Act). Another was failure to remove within 30 days of service.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really surprised that a judge ordered attorney fees on a remand.  One, remanded on a similar basis (but under the Airlines Deregulation Act). Another was failure to remove within 30 days of service.</p>
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		By: David Gingras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Gingras]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pretty bad procedural choice here by ROR. It&#039;s kind of Fed. Civ. Pro. 101 that a federal defense is NOT enough to create federal jurisdiction when the face of the Complaint doesn&#039;t otherwise contain any federal claims.

On the other hand, federal JX can exist when the state law claims are completely preempted by federal law. That&#039;s a rare thing, but it IS a thing.

And in fairness to ROR, I actually used this same argument in a different context - when the actor Colin Farrell sued a client of mine for attempting to distribute a sex tape showing him and a Playboy bunny. The Complaint only asserted state law claims, but I nevertheless removed it to federal court on the basis that the CA state law claims were all completely preempted by federal law (the Copyright Act).

I personally think this was a good argument which should have worked, but the federal court disagreed and remanded the case without awarding fees.  See: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.178751/gov.uscourts.cacd.178751.21.0.pdf

Still, in my view, arguing complete preemption of a state law claim under Section 230 is a bad way of trying to get yourself into federal court. It&#039;s just way too easy to shoot this down with the well-settled rule that a federal defense, by itself, is never enough to create federal question jurisdiction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty bad procedural choice here by ROR. It&#8217;s kind of Fed. Civ. Pro. 101 that a federal defense is NOT enough to create federal jurisdiction when the face of the Complaint doesn&#8217;t otherwise contain any federal claims.</p>
<p>On the other hand, federal JX can exist when the state law claims are completely preempted by federal law. That&#8217;s a rare thing, but it IS a thing.</p>
<p>And in fairness to ROR, I actually used this same argument in a different context &#8211; when the actor Colin Farrell sued a client of mine for attempting to distribute a sex tape showing him and a Playboy bunny. The Complaint only asserted state law claims, but I nevertheless removed it to federal court on the basis that the CA state law claims were all completely preempted by federal law (the Copyright Act).</p>
<p>I personally think this was a good argument which should have worked, but the federal court disagreed and remanded the case without awarding fees.  See: <a href="https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.178751/gov.uscourts.cacd.178751.21.0.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.178751/gov.uscourts.cacd.178751.21.0.pdf</a></p>
<p>Still, in my view, arguing complete preemption of a state law claim under Section 230 is a bad way of trying to get yourself into federal court. It&#8217;s just way too easy to shoot this down with the well-settled rule that a federal defense, by itself, is never enough to create federal question jurisdiction.</p>
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