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	Comments on: Section 230 Covers Republication of Old Yearbooks&#8211;Callahan v. Ancestry	</title>
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		By: Jason Middleton		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Middleton]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/03/section-230-covers-republication-of-old-yearbooks-callahan-v-ancestry.htm#comment-2943&quot;&gt;David S. Gingras&lt;/a&gt;.

Much obliged for the reply. The bright lines are now brighter. Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/03/section-230-covers-republication-of-old-yearbooks-callahan-v-ancestry.htm#comment-2943">David S. Gingras</a>.</p>
<p>Much obliged for the reply. The bright lines are now brighter. Cheers.</p>
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		By: David S. Gingras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David S. Gingras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2021 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/03/section-230-covers-republication-of-old-yearbooks-callahan-v-ancestry.htm#comment-2937&quot;&gt;Jason Middleton&lt;/a&gt;.

Jason,

Re: this comment: &quot;public use of someone&#039;s image without their permission&quot;....

There is a HUGE misconception that it is illegal to &quot;use&quot; a person&#039;s name/image without their permission. As a lawyer who represents websites that host some negative content (including complaints about businesses &#038; individuals) I have seen literally hundreds (maybe thousands) of demand letters that all say the same basic thing: &quot;Your website contains a complaint about, or a reference to, my client using his/her name/image. You are forbidden to use my client&#039;s name/image without his/her consent.&quot;

The problem with this argument is that &lt;i&gt;it kind of sounds like&lt;/i&gt; it could almost be correct....so lots of people think it IS correct. But it&#039;s not, and here&#039;s why: there is a bright-line difference between using someone&#039;s name to &lt;i&gt;talk about that person&lt;/i&gt; vs. using someone&#039;s name to &lt;i&gt;advertise/promote a product or service&lt;/i&gt;.

For example, Tiger Woods was recently in a car crash. Is it illegal to use Tiger&#039;s name/image for the purpose of talking about that crash? Of course not.

Now compare that to a different situation where a company manufactures and sells golf balls. Can that company put Tiger&#039;s name/image on their product without his permission? Of course not....because in that case, they are using Tiger&#039;s fame to promote a product, not to talk about Tiger.

Even a non-lawyer should understand that these are two different things. Of course, the problem is that the bright-line rule gets blurry when the facts change, so it&#039;s sometimes hard to tell what qualifies as making a commercial use of someone&#039;s name vs. just using their name to talk about them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2021/03/section-230-covers-republication-of-old-yearbooks-callahan-v-ancestry.htm#comment-2937">Jason Middleton</a>.</p>
<p>Jason,</p>
<p>Re: this comment: &#8220;public use of someone&#8217;s image without their permission&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
<p>There is a HUGE misconception that it is illegal to &#8220;use&#8221; a person&#8217;s name/image without their permission. As a lawyer who represents websites that host some negative content (including complaints about businesses &amp; individuals) I have seen literally hundreds (maybe thousands) of demand letters that all say the same basic thing: &#8220;Your website contains a complaint about, or a reference to, my client using his/her name/image. You are forbidden to use my client&#8217;s name/image without his/her consent.&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem with this argument is that <i>it kind of sounds like</i> it could almost be correct&#8230;.so lots of people think it IS correct. But it&#8217;s not, and here&#8217;s why: there is a bright-line difference between using someone&#8217;s name to <i>talk about that person</i> vs. using someone&#8217;s name to <i>advertise/promote a product or service</i>.</p>
<p>For example, Tiger Woods was recently in a car crash. Is it illegal to use Tiger&#8217;s name/image for the purpose of talking about that crash? Of course not.</p>
<p>Now compare that to a different situation where a company manufactures and sells golf balls. Can that company put Tiger&#8217;s name/image on their product without his permission? Of course not&#8230;.because in that case, they are using Tiger&#8217;s fame to promote a product, not to talk about Tiger.</p>
<p>Even a non-lawyer should understand that these are two different things. Of course, the problem is that the bright-line rule gets blurry when the facts change, so it&#8217;s sometimes hard to tell what qualifies as making a commercial use of someone&#8217;s name vs. just using their name to talk about them.</p>
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		By: Jason Middleton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2021 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As ever, your distillation of this case and its context is expert. I feel smarter for having read it (twice). That said, as a lay person, I still feel an &#039;uncanny valley&#039; (to borrow an animation term) when it comes to the area between Article III and Section 230 when it comes to individual protection of privacy and the published/public use of someone&#039;s image without their permission. I suppose I will re-read your take! Thanks...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As ever, your distillation of this case and its context is expert. I feel smarter for having read it (twice). That said, as a lay person, I still feel an &#8216;uncanny valley&#8217; (to borrow an animation term) when it comes to the area between Article III and Section 230 when it comes to individual protection of privacy and the published/public use of someone&#8217;s image without their permission. I suppose I will re-read your take! Thanks&#8230;</p>
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