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	Comments on: Deleting Comments to County Facebook Page May Violate First Amendment&#8211;Davison v. Loudoun County	</title>
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		By: Brian Davison		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Davison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2017 18:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/deleting-comments-to-county-facebook-page-may-violate-first-amendment-davison-v-loudoun-county.htm#comment-1785&quot;&gt;Ashley&lt;/a&gt;.

Loudoun claims they didn&#039;t delete the comments; however, their claims have been proven false before.

There is the possibility, however remote, that 3rd party users reported comments as spam and facebook automatically deleted it. Thus, I am asking for their logs.

But the bigger question is whether facebook forums can legally serve as a limited public forum at all. On facebook, pages must be public. But comments on these pages can be hidden from certain users if the commenter has blocked that user on their profile. One can have long running conversations on government facebook pages that are hidden to certain users who are blocked by the original commenter. While Facebook is perfectly within its right to operate its software in this way, this is equivalent to allowing groups to ban those they dislike from a given area of a public park. Thus, I am arguing that until facebook opens up such public pages for all to see all discussions, it is unconstitutional for any public body to use them as a discussion forum.

I can link to all the pleadings if you like. A bigger case involves another public body in Loudoun. The school board members use facebook pages to discuss policy and votes with citizens. Because of my criticism, at least five have maintained permanent blocks against me on their school board pages and refuse to unblock me even though a 1983 suit was filed in May 2016 (1:16-CV-540)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/deleting-comments-to-county-facebook-page-may-violate-first-amendment-davison-v-loudoun-county.htm#comment-1785">Ashley</a>.</p>
<p>Loudoun claims they didn&#8217;t delete the comments; however, their claims have been proven false before.</p>
<p>There is the possibility, however remote, that 3rd party users reported comments as spam and facebook automatically deleted it. Thus, I am asking for their logs.</p>
<p>But the bigger question is whether facebook forums can legally serve as a limited public forum at all. On facebook, pages must be public. But comments on these pages can be hidden from certain users if the commenter has blocked that user on their profile. One can have long running conversations on government facebook pages that are hidden to certain users who are blocked by the original commenter. While Facebook is perfectly within its right to operate its software in this way, this is equivalent to allowing groups to ban those they dislike from a given area of a public park. Thus, I am arguing that until facebook opens up such public pages for all to see all discussions, it is unconstitutional for any public body to use them as a discussion forum.</p>
<p>I can link to all the pleadings if you like. A bigger case involves another public body in Loudoun. The school board members use facebook pages to discuss policy and votes with citizens. Because of my criticism, at least five have maintained permanent blocks against me on their school board pages and refuse to unblock me even though a 1983 suit was filed in May 2016 (1:16-CV-540)</p>
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		By: Ashley		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/deleting-comments-to-county-facebook-page-may-violate-first-amendment-davison-v-loudoun-county.htm#comment-1785</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ashley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/deleting-comments-to-county-facebook-page-may-violate-first-amendment-davison-v-loudoun-county.htm#comment-1758&quot;&gt;Brian Davison&lt;/a&gt;.

How does deposing Facebook help if the  government officials did the blocking?  Can they be named in a suit as well?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/deleting-comments-to-county-facebook-page-may-violate-first-amendment-davison-v-loudoun-county.htm#comment-1758">Brian Davison</a>.</p>
<p>How does deposing Facebook help if the  government officials did the blocking?  Can they be named in a suit as well?</p>
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		By: Brian Davison		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/deleting-comments-to-county-facebook-page-may-violate-first-amendment-davison-v-loudoun-county.htm#comment-1758</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Davison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also added a claim against the chairwoman who blocked me on her county chairwoman Facebook page.  Such prior restraint of speech, especially without any due process, is always illegal.  A follow-on ruling denied her motion to dismiss those separate claims (V and VI).

I am trying to add other claims about facebook pages in general.  Plan to depose Facebook in early March.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also added a claim against the chairwoman who blocked me on her county chairwoman Facebook page.  Such prior restraint of speech, especially without any due process, is always illegal.  A follow-on ruling denied her motion to dismiss those separate claims (V and VI).</p>
<p>I am trying to add other claims about facebook pages in general.  Plan to depose Facebook in early March.</p>
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		By: CLIP-ings: October 21, 2016 &#8211; CLIP-ings		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Oct 2016 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Censorship of Social Media: In a case where a Virginia man’s comments criticizing his municipal government were repeatedly hidden from a post made by the county on its official Facebook page, an appeals court has ruled for the first time that a government’s Facebook page is considered a limited public forum and, therefore, such speech is subject to First Amendment protection, so long as it relates to a matter of public interest and does not violate any terms of the social media policy. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Censorship of Social Media: In a case where a Virginia man’s comments criticizing his municipal government were repeatedly hidden from a post made by the county on its official Facebook page, an appeals court has ruled for the first time that a government’s Facebook page is considered a limited public forum and, therefore, such speech is subject to First Amendment protection, so long as it relates to a matter of public interest and does not violate any terms of the social media policy. [&#8230;]</p>
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