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		By: FIBER0PTIC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FIBER0PTIC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have used a P.O. box on my drivers licence for decades in Nevada, last time I went to renew they said I must use a physical address.

I have owned thousands of adult domain names over the years, Godaddy still allows P.O. boxes, and the names I have used for contact info never has been verified. Minimum wage workers at checkout time, poor shopping cart script, who knows why they are so lose on verification. either way Godaddy gets paid. I just looked at your .sucks post, $2,400 for a domain name.

I enjoy reading your stuff, Tks. FIBER0PTIC]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used a P.O. box on my drivers licence for decades in Nevada, last time I went to renew they said I must use a physical address.</p>
<p>I have owned thousands of adult domain names over the years, Godaddy still allows P.O. boxes, and the names I have used for contact info never has been verified. Minimum wage workers at checkout time, poor shopping cart script, who knows why they are so lose on verification. either way Godaddy gets paid. I just looked at your .sucks post, $2,400 for a domain name.</p>
<p>I enjoy reading your stuff, Tks. FIBER0PTIC</p>
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		By: Website owners facing government-set &#8216;trap&#8217;		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Website owners facing government-set &#8216;trap&#8217;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2016 01:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Internet law expert Eric Goldman also is against the updates. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Internet law expert Eric Goldman also is against the updates. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: DMCA Agents Must Now Re-Register With Copyright Office &#124; Ted&#039;s Pseudo-Pseudonymous Notes and Links		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DMCA Agents Must Now Re-Register With Copyright Office &#124; Ted&#039;s Pseudo-Pseudonymous Notes and Links]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2016 23:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Goldman gives in-depth analysis here. Mike Masnick also posted at Techdirt: &#8220;Copyright Office Fucks Over Thousands Of Sites With [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Goldman gives in-depth analysis here. Mike Masnick also posted at Techdirt: &#8220;Copyright Office Fucks Over Thousands Of Sites With [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Copyright Office Sets Trap for Unwary Website Owners &#124; Electronic Frontier Foundation		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Copyright Office Sets Trap for Unwary Website Owners &#124; Electronic Frontier Foundation]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2016 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The Office says that the contact information for 65% of the sites in its database are different from the designated agent information that owners gave on their own sites. As Internet law expert Eric Goldman points out, that doesn’t mean that the current entries are incorrect: [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Office says that the contact information for 65% of the sites in its database are different from the designated agent information that owners gave on their own sites. As Internet law expert Eric Goldman points out, that doesn’t mean that the current entries are incorrect: [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2016 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1707&quot;&gt;Doug Isenberg&lt;/a&gt;.

I was wondering about that too. The Final Rules draft was almost certainly finished before Pallante&#039;s departure, so I attribute it to her regime. However, in the prior NPRM from May, the office mentioned that the project of building the electronic database sat in the LOC for years. It&#039;s possible that resource battles over completing this project could have led to friction or sniping. Eric.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1707">Doug Isenberg</a>.</p>
<p>I was wondering about that too. The Final Rules draft was almost certainly finished before Pallante&#8217;s departure, so I attribute it to her regime. However, in the prior NPRM from May, the office mentioned that the project of building the electronic database sat in the LOC for years. It&#8217;s possible that resource battles over completing this project could have led to friction or sniping. Eric.</p>
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		By: T.C. Johnston, LL.M.		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1708</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T.C. Johnston, LL.M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2016 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For another perspective, this is rather problematic in my world.  I work with small personally-funded web startups, a lot.  They come to me during dev, I draft them some terms/policies, IC contracts, etc., consult and advise re DMCA and all the things, and they go on their way.  They are no longer my client.  They either fail, or succeed; and invariably rejigger their entire biz model along the way because that&#039;s what happens when you actually build it.  Even when they&#039;re straight goods/services sites, almost all of them have some form of UGC -- blog comments, forums, whatever.  And if this no-longer-my-client decides to add riskier (e.g. uploads) UGC after I&#039;m out of the picture, I don&#039;t know about it, so let&#039;s hope they kept their safe harbor from what I told them way back when.  But they are on their own at that point.  And there are lots of these businesses I may never communicate with again -- until they&#039;re getting sued, or shaken down by a troll... and then I at times find what a mess they made of the legal stuff I did for them.  So, yeah, adding more ways to create risk for entrepreneurs is not a good thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For another perspective, this is rather problematic in my world.  I work with small personally-funded web startups, a lot.  They come to me during dev, I draft them some terms/policies, IC contracts, etc., consult and advise re DMCA and all the things, and they go on their way.  They are no longer my client.  They either fail, or succeed; and invariably rejigger their entire biz model along the way because that&#8217;s what happens when you actually build it.  Even when they&#8217;re straight goods/services sites, almost all of them have some form of UGC &#8212; blog comments, forums, whatever.  And if this no-longer-my-client decides to add riskier (e.g. uploads) UGC after I&#8217;m out of the picture, I don&#8217;t know about it, so let&#8217;s hope they kept their safe harbor from what I told them way back when.  But they are on their own at that point.  And there are lots of these businesses I may never communicate with again &#8212; until they&#8217;re getting sued, or shaken down by a troll&#8230; and then I at times find what a mess they made of the legal stuff I did for them.  So, yeah, adding more ways to create risk for entrepreneurs is not a good thing.</p>
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		By: Doug Isenberg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Isenberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2016 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just reading this now (though I saw the Copyright Office&#039;s announcement earlier today). Any possibility that there&#039;s a connection between this news and the recent departure of Maria Pallante as Register of Copyrights?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just reading this now (though I saw the Copyright Office&#8217;s announcement earlier today). Any possibility that there&#8217;s a connection between this news and the recent departure of Maria Pallante as Register of Copyrights?</p>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1705&quot;&gt;David S. Gingras&lt;/a&gt;.

Watch out for copyright infringements with pooping unicorns. http://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2302&#038;context=historical As for your substantive argument, do you recall Righthaven?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1705">David S. Gingras</a>.</p>
<p>Watch out for copyright infringements with pooping unicorns. <a href="http://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2302&#038;context=historical" rel="nofollow ugc">http://digitalcommons.law.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2302&#038;context=historical</a> As for your substantive argument, do you recall Righthaven?</p>
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		By: David S. Gingras		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David S. Gingras]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1704&quot;&gt;Eric Goldman&lt;/a&gt;.

Now hang on -- you are worried about the burden placed on UGC sites that are not run as a business? Does such a thing exist? (yeah, I mean other than this blog...or arguably, Twitter).

Clearly, I have spent too long focusing on the chore of practicing law for commercial gain. To my mind, the idea of someone bothering to spend $400 to sue a non-commercial UGC site....well, that sounds about as rare as a unicorn pooping a rainbow.  I know this does happen, but not in my universe.

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a9eb928771c3bcc1736dfae9c4a481aba7103db62b12696f407b69856a7373a2.jpg]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1704">Eric Goldman</a>.</p>
<p>Now hang on &#8212; you are worried about the burden placed on UGC sites that are not run as a business? Does such a thing exist? (yeah, I mean other than this blog&#8230;or arguably, Twitter).</p>
<p>Clearly, I have spent too long focusing on the chore of practicing law for commercial gain. To my mind, the idea of someone bothering to spend $400 to sue a non-commercial UGC site&#8230;.well, that sounds about as rare as a unicorn pooping a rainbow.  I know this does happen, but not in my universe.</p>
<p><a href="https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a9eb928771c3bcc1736dfae9c4a481aba7103db62b12696f407b69856a7373a2.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a9eb928771c3bcc1736dfae9c4a481aba7103db62b12696f407b69856a7373a2.jpg</a></p>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2016 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1700&quot;&gt;David S. Gingras&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice to know there are a few freebies in life. But for UGC sites that aren&#039;t run as a &quot;business,&quot; any cost of doing business is noticeable]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/10/copyright-office-gratuitously-kills-the-dmca-safe-harbor-for-thousands-of-websites.htm#comment-1700">David S. Gingras</a>.</p>
<p>Nice to know there are a few freebies in life. But for UGC sites that aren&#8217;t run as a &#8220;business,&#8221; any cost of doing business is noticeable</p>
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