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	Comments on: Supreme Court Revisits Copyright&#8217;s Attorney Fee Shifts&#8211;Kirtsaeng v. Wiley	</title>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/06/supreme-court-revisits-copyrights-attorney-fee-shifts-kirtsaeng-v-wiley.htm#comment-1577&quot;&gt;rw970&lt;/a&gt;.

Hmm...interesting how you prioritize the plaintiff&#039;s interests. I think protecting defendants from abusive enforcements is at least as important as deterring defendants from abusive defenses. At least in my world, I see way more of the former than the latter. Eric.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/06/supreme-court-revisits-copyrights-attorney-fee-shifts-kirtsaeng-v-wiley.htm#comment-1577">rw970</a>.</p>
<p>Hmm&#8230;interesting how you prioritize the plaintiff&#8217;s interests. I think protecting defendants from abusive enforcements is at least as important as deterring defendants from abusive defenses. At least in my world, I see way more of the former than the latter. Eric.</p>
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		By: rw970		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rw970]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/06/supreme-court-revisits-copyrights-attorney-fee-shifts-kirtsaeng-v-wiley.htm#comment-1576&quot;&gt;Eric Goldman&lt;/a&gt;.

Isn&#039;t the whole point of the fee-shifting provision to deter defendants from pursuing unmeritorious defenses? If we&#039;re not afraid of them staking out unreasonable positions, why have a 505 at all?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/06/supreme-court-revisits-copyrights-attorney-fee-shifts-kirtsaeng-v-wiley.htm#comment-1576">Eric Goldman</a>.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the whole point of the fee-shifting provision to deter defendants from pursuing unmeritorious defenses? If we&#8217;re not afraid of them staking out unreasonable positions, why have a 505 at all?</p>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/06/supreme-court-revisits-copyrights-attorney-fee-shifts-kirtsaeng-v-wiley.htm#comment-1575&quot;&gt;rw970&lt;/a&gt;.

I agree with you that the fair use defense makes it harder to reach a definitive conclusion about when a copyright defense is objectively reasonable. However, I doubt defendants will pursue unmeritorious defenses just because they don&#039;t feel the pressure of a possible fee shift against them. They still face significant damages and their own attorneys&#039; fees. I wonder if we can draw any lessons from how courts are dealing with the applicability of fair use when dealing with 512(f) cases?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/06/supreme-court-revisits-copyrights-attorney-fee-shifts-kirtsaeng-v-wiley.htm#comment-1575">rw970</a>.</p>
<p>I agree with you that the fair use defense makes it harder to reach a definitive conclusion about when a copyright defense is objectively reasonable. However, I doubt defendants will pursue unmeritorious defenses just because they don&#8217;t feel the pressure of a possible fee shift against them. They still face significant damages and their own attorneys&#8217; fees. I wonder if we can draw any lessons from how courts are dealing with the applicability of fair use when dealing with 512(f) cases?</p>
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		By: rw970		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric, one of the difficulties I see with the Court&#039;s endorsement of the &quot;objectively reasonable&quot; standard is what do you do with fair use cases? Fair use is a defense in virtually every copyright case - although not in Kirtsaeng. It&#039;s very hard to come up with a fair use defense that is not objectively reasonable. If that&#039;s the case, it&#039;s going to be very hard for prevailing plaintiffs to get fee awards in a large majority of cases. Defendants, especially deep pocketed defendants, will be incentivized to contest even worthy infringement claims because as long as they can make a colorable fair use argument, they will not have to pay fees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, one of the difficulties I see with the Court&#8217;s endorsement of the &#8220;objectively reasonable&#8221; standard is what do you do with fair use cases? Fair use is a defense in virtually every copyright case &#8211; although not in Kirtsaeng. It&#8217;s very hard to come up with a fair use defense that is not objectively reasonable. If that&#8217;s the case, it&#8217;s going to be very hard for prevailing plaintiffs to get fee awards in a large majority of cases. Defendants, especially deep pocketed defendants, will be incentivized to contest even worthy infringement claims because as long as they can make a colorable fair use argument, they will not have to pay fees.</p>
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