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	Comments on: Virtual Casino Doesn&#8217;t Violate California&#8217;s Gambling Law&#8211;Mason v. Machine Zone (Guest Blog Post)	</title>
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		By: Chairman Meow		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1473</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chairman Meow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2016 07:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1462&quot;&gt;Eric Goldman&lt;/a&gt;.

Very much appreciate this article, yes 100% on point and I am sooo pleased that the legal field is on top of this.  I probably should post my case on a different forum, perhaps you can help.  My problem lies within the &quot;right to refuse service&quot; realm, meaning, how a business can accept payment from a user they have previously banned, then, after providing the virtual goods purchased, ban them again before the user can even apply them? If I am banned from a store, wouldn&#039;t the store refuse my presence within the store or, hello, my money at the register?  Don&#039;t they have an obligation to mitigate damages? Or is it perfectly OK to say, &quot;you can&#039;t shop here so after checkout, keep the receipt, but we are confiscating your valid purchases on your way out, thank you, come again&quot;. Is that legal?  To me, it seems like organized crime. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1462">Eric Goldman</a>.</p>
<p>Very much appreciate this article, yes 100% on point and I am sooo pleased that the legal field is on top of this.  I probably should post my case on a different forum, perhaps you can help.  My problem lies within the &#8220;right to refuse service&#8221; realm, meaning, how a business can accept payment from a user they have previously banned, then, after providing the virtual goods purchased, ban them again before the user can even apply them? If I am banned from a store, wouldn&#8217;t the store refuse my presence within the store or, hello, my money at the register?  Don&#8217;t they have an obligation to mitigate damages? Or is it perfectly OK to say, &#8220;you can&#8217;t shop here so after checkout, keep the receipt, but we are confiscating your valid purchases on your way out, thank you, come again&#8221;. Is that legal?  To me, it seems like organized crime. </p>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2016 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1460&quot;&gt;Chairman Meow&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not 100% on point but this article might still be interesting http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=755884]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1460">Chairman Meow</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not 100% on point but this article might still be interesting <a href="http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=755884" rel="nofollow ugc">http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=755884</a></p>
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		By: Chairman Meow		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1461</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chairman Meow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2016 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1460&quot;&gt;Chairman Meow&lt;/a&gt;.

I would like to add that over the course of the 4 years, I ranked #20 in overall popularity amongst tens of thousands of players, I was a &quot;whale&quot;; I never violated their rules for pictures I posted, language I used, cheating, or adverse interactions with other players.  I was a MODEL player and I have email correspondence from this company&#039;s customer service that confirms this dated 3 days prior to the ban.  My total spend on this app is over $80,000 USD to date and I have multiple friends who have spent equal, if not substantially more, than me.  I know every single individual who pays this company&#039;s payroll. We all were assigned &quot;VIP&quot; reps.  We want what we paid for.

 p.s. thank you for shedding light on this extremely problematic business practice, hence my heated comments. This app was not like this prior to being purchased by Big Fish Games, but Churchill Downs has made it even more disgusting. I originally downloaded this app when it was Card Ace Casino, by Self Aware Games (Oakland, CA) in 2010.  They have never required an authenticated login, they used your device ID/IP Geo-location info to log you in. I developed rapports with the 23 employees before the acquisitions, they have systematically replaced all the original developers since then. I have every email correspondence, BBB case details, purchase transactions, receipts, devices used, app store accounts and profiles dating from 2010 until now in hopes the law catches up with this type of tech fraud.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1460">Chairman Meow</a>.</p>
<p>I would like to add that over the course of the 4 years, I ranked #20 in overall popularity amongst tens of thousands of players, I was a &#8220;whale&#8221;; I never violated their rules for pictures I posted, language I used, cheating, or adverse interactions with other players.  I was a MODEL player and I have email correspondence from this company&#8217;s customer service that confirms this dated 3 days prior to the ban.  My total spend on this app is over $80,000 USD to date and I have multiple friends who have spent equal, if not substantially more, than me.  I know every single individual who pays this company&#8217;s payroll. We all were assigned &#8220;VIP&#8221; reps.  We want what we paid for.</p>
<p> p.s. thank you for shedding light on this extremely problematic business practice, hence my heated comments. This app was not like this prior to being purchased by Big Fish Games, but Churchill Downs has made it even more disgusting. I originally downloaded this app when it was Card Ace Casino, by Self Aware Games (Oakland, CA) in 2010.  They have never required an authenticated login, they used your device ID/IP Geo-location info to log you in. I developed rapports with the 23 employees before the acquisitions, they have systematically replaced all the original developers since then. I have every email correspondence, BBB case details, purchase transactions, receipts, devices used, app store accounts and profiles dating from 2010 until now in hopes the law catches up with this type of tech fraud.</p>
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		By: Chairman Meow		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2016/01/virtual-casino-doesnt-violate-californias-gambling-law-mason-v-machine-zone-guest-blog-post.htm#comment-1460</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2016 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What about people living in the State of California, who at the time of residence, download a free-to-play casino app (Big Fish Casino), spend $40,000 USD over the course of 4 years, then get banned for no explicit reason other than &quot;Violated Terms of Service&quot; and it&#039;s up to me to figure out which part of the 5,000 word document? I lost something very valuable, my profile, my popularity rankings, contact with other players, reputation, not to mention the virtual currency I paid for days prior. It&#039;s just a casino, mainly slots, there is NO skill involved, the app can control every aspect of winnings or losings. Why would I get banned? It&#039;s virtual coins, free to them, free to all, not free to me! It gets better. After exhausting all resources to find out what I did to get banned (they just block your email, I filed with BBB.org and they just cut paste the auto-response they sent me), I get a new device, download the app, play for a few days, buy $500 worth of chips and get banned again hours later. I didn&#039;t even have time to violate anything, other than being the same person who was banned previously. However, it seems that they were aware I was this person, that&#039;s why the repeat ban, but, ha, they sure accepted my real $500 USD! This has happened multiple times, they ban me after taking my substantial purchases. I want to create an app where I can collect people&#039;s money then just ban them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about people living in the State of California, who at the time of residence, download a free-to-play casino app (Big Fish Casino), spend $40,000 USD over the course of 4 years, then get banned for no explicit reason other than &#8220;Violated Terms of Service&#8221; and it&#8217;s up to me to figure out which part of the 5,000 word document? I lost something very valuable, my profile, my popularity rankings, contact with other players, reputation, not to mention the virtual currency I paid for days prior. It&#8217;s just a casino, mainly slots, there is NO skill involved, the app can control every aspect of winnings or losings. Why would I get banned? It&#8217;s virtual coins, free to them, free to all, not free to me! It gets better. After exhausting all resources to find out what I did to get banned (they just block your email, I filed with BBB.org and they just cut paste the auto-response they sent me), I get a new device, download the app, play for a few days, buy $500 worth of chips and get banned again hours later. I didn&#8217;t even have time to violate anything, other than being the same person who was banned previously. However, it seems that they were aware I was this person, that&#8217;s why the repeat ban, but, ha, they sure accepted my real $500 USD! This has happened multiple times, they ban me after taking my substantial purchases. I want to create an app where I can collect people&#8217;s money then just ban them.</p>
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		By: Big Fish&#8217;s Virtual Casino Doesn&#8217;t Violate Washington&#8217;s Gambling Statute		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2016 19:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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