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		By: 23andMe&#8217;s Browsewrap Fails, But Its Post-Purchase Clickthrough Works Anyway&#8211;Tompkins v. 23andMe &#124; Technology &#38; Marketing Law Blog		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] Sale’ Website Defeats Class Action Claim With Mandatory Arbitration Clause–Starke v. Gilt * Some Thoughts On General Mills’ Move To Mandate Arbitration And Waive Class Actions * How To Get Your Clickthrough Agreement Enforced In Court–Moretti v. Hertz * Court Rules That [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: &#8216;Flash Sale&#8217; Website Defeats Class Action Claim With Mandatory Arbitration Clause&#8211;Starke v. Gilt &#124; Technology &#38; Marketing Law Blog		</title>
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		By: OMG! Betty Crocker clickwrap destroys your legal rights! - Overlawyered		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] For those who freaked out at those headlines Thursday, Daniel Fisher at Forbes has a corrective to the New York Times&#8217; latest story advancing the trial lawyer campaign against arbitration. More: Eric Goldman. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] For those who freaked out at those headlines Thursday, Daniel Fisher at Forbes has a corrective to the New York Times&#8217; latest story advancing the trial lawyer campaign against arbitration. More: Eric Goldman. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: David S.		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The confidentiality provision bothers me more than the arbitration requirement.]]></description>
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		By: Jonathan Pollard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2014 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do not imagine there will be any legislative response, let alone a strong legislative response.  I expected some legislative response post AT&#038;T Mobility v. Concepcion, 563 U.S. 321 (2011), but it never happened.  

My problem here is that process is substance in a number of different ways.  With no class vehicle, there is no ability to aggregate small dollar claims and, therefore, no incentive to take action against widespread, individually low value corporate abuses.  Yes, class actions may result in very small recoveries paid to the individual consumers, but they still serve as private policing of regulatory failures or gaps.  And with class waivers, that&#039;s gone.  

And arbitration?  A similar process trumps substance problem.  Although most of my work is defense-side, I occasionally take a plaintiff-side contingency fee case (e.g. investment fraud).  And from that perspective, many cases are far less attractive in arbitration than they are in litigation (obviously).  But it&#039;s to such an extent that the case won&#039;t ever be pursued.  So process, again, trumps.  

And my fear, under the current &quot;always err on the side of arbitration because of our strong, long-standing federal policy in favor of arbitration&quot; regime and the recent case law (nearly all of which cuts in that direction), we will see (1) the question of whether or not the consumer clicked through and agreed to arbitrate sent to the arbitrator to decide and (2) any close call in which agreement or assent to the contract is debatable resolved in favor of arbitration because of the aforementioned strong public policy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not imagine there will be any legislative response, let alone a strong legislative response.  I expected some legislative response post AT&amp;T Mobility v. Concepcion, 563 U.S. 321 (2011), but it never happened.  </p>
<p>My problem here is that process is substance in a number of different ways.  With no class vehicle, there is no ability to aggregate small dollar claims and, therefore, no incentive to take action against widespread, individually low value corporate abuses.  Yes, class actions may result in very small recoveries paid to the individual consumers, but they still serve as private policing of regulatory failures or gaps.  And with class waivers, that&#8217;s gone.  </p>
<p>And arbitration?  A similar process trumps substance problem.  Although most of my work is defense-side, I occasionally take a plaintiff-side contingency fee case (e.g. investment fraud).  And from that perspective, many cases are far less attractive in arbitration than they are in litigation (obviously).  But it&#8217;s to such an extent that the case won&#8217;t ever be pursued.  So process, again, trumps.  </p>
<p>And my fear, under the current &#8220;always err on the side of arbitration because of our strong, long-standing federal policy in favor of arbitration&#8221; regime and the recent case law (nearly all of which cuts in that direction), we will see (1) the question of whether or not the consumer clicked through and agreed to arbitrate sent to the arbitrator to decide and (2) any close call in which agreement or assent to the contract is debatable resolved in favor of arbitration because of the aforementioned strong public policy.</p>
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