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	Comments on: KinderStart Lawsuit Dismissed (With Leave to Amend)	</title>
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		By: Eric Goldman		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-2746</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric Goldman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-2745&quot;&gt;The Skeptic King&lt;/a&gt;.

Because I&#039;m a moron, I&#039;m not following you. You did see that this post is from 14 years ago, right? Maybe you are calling me a moron because I didn&#039;t anticipate foreign defamation rulings that were issued after this post? I&#039;m feeling both moronic and confused right now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-2745">The Skeptic King</a>.</p>
<p>Because I&#8217;m a moron, I&#8217;m not following you. You did see that this post is from 14 years ago, right? Maybe you are calling me a moron because I didn&#8217;t anticipate foreign defamation rulings that were issued after this post? I&#8217;m feeling both moronic and confused right now.</p>
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		By: The Skeptic King		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-2745</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Skeptic King]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 04:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did you realise that google has been successfully sued for defamation outside of the USA?


What a moron you are.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you realise that google has been successfully sued for defamation outside of the USA?</p>
<p>What a moron you are.</p>
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		By: Ted		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-404</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric:

Regarding the Kinderstart defamation claim:

Kinderstart, as one member of the class might have some slight difficulty proving that their PR=0 is the result of &quot;manual intervention&quot; since their site has not been completely censored.  However, the thousands of sites that bave been banned (completely censored from Google&#039;s search results by manual intervention) have no difficulty in proving it.  Google admits to manual censoring.  Google assigns banned sites a PR of zero.  Therefore banned sites can prove defamation per the court&#039;s description you cite.  See http://www.searchenginehonesty.com/search_engine_censoring.html#defamation for more on this issue.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric:</p>
<p>Regarding the Kinderstart defamation claim:</p>
<p>Kinderstart, as one member of the class might have some slight difficulty proving that their PR=0 is the result of &#8220;manual intervention&#8221; since their site has not been completely censored.  However, the thousands of sites that bave been banned (completely censored from Google&#8217;s search results by manual intervention) have no difficulty in proving it.  Google admits to manual censoring.  Google assigns banned sites a PR of zero.  Therefore banned sites can prove defamation per the court&#8217;s description you cite.  See <a href="http://www.searchenginehonesty.com/search_engine_censoring.html#defamation" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.searchenginehonesty.com/search_engine_censoring.html#defamation</a> for more on this issue.</p>
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		By: GregR		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GregR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This begs the question: &quot;Is the fact that these algorithms or opinions are executed on Private Property, eg Google servers make a difference?&quot;.

I would think that Google has the right to do what ever it wants within the law on their servers. And if you don&#039;t like it go else where?&quot;. After all Commerce has been around a bit longer than Google, and just because Google has been able to build a really popular &quot;Mall&quot; (to speak) it doesn&#039;t mean that additional burden falls on Google.

I would think that you would have an almost impossible argument to make that any public domain falls on Google.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This begs the question: &#8220;Is the fact that these algorithms or opinions are executed on Private Property, eg Google servers make a difference?&#8221;.</p>
<p>I would think that Google has the right to do what ever it wants within the law on their servers. And if you don&#8217;t like it go else where?&#8221;. After all Commerce has been around a bit longer than Google, and just because Google has been able to build a really popular &#8220;Mall&#8221; (to speak) it doesn&#8217;t mean that additional burden falls on Google.</p>
<p>I would think that you would have an almost impossible argument to make that any public domain falls on Google.</p>
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		By: Fred Jafarzadeh		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fred Jafarzadeh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jul 2006 12:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I had ranking 3 until one week ago and now is 0.

I don&#039;t know what google did to bring our ranking to 0.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had ranking 3 until one week ago and now is 0.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what google did to bring our ranking to 0.</p>
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		By: John		</title>
		<link>https://blog.ericgoldman.org/archives/2006/07/kinderstart_law.htm#comment-401</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 22:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There will be more such law suits against Google considering the problems we are seeing in Google.

Visit a site http://www.organicspam.com and you will find all informations related to Google - its dark and black sides

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be more such law suits against Google considering the problems we are seeing in Google.</p>
<p>Visit a site <a href="http://www.organicspam.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.organicspam.com</a> and you will find all informations related to Google &#8211; its dark and black sides</p>
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