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	Comments on: Symantec Sues Hotbar for Declaratory Judgment That Symantec&#8217;s Classifications/Descriptions Do Not Create Liability	</title>
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		By: Ben Edelman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Edelman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2005 13:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As to your final paragraph: The many definitions of adware are admittedly a bit dull to read.  But I&#039;m not sure I see any problem sufficient to support your claim that &quot;we would all beneift from consistent definitions.&quot;

Symantec wants to show that its characterization of adware is accurate (number one on your very sensible five-bullet-point list).  For this purpose, it&#039;s important both to establish what Symantec means when it uses the term (so we can then compare those behaviors to Hotbar&#039;s actual behaviors) and what others mean when they use that term (to make sure Symantec&#039;s use of the term isn&#039;t somehow off-base).

I don&#039;t know that we need any single definition of &quot;adware&quot; in order to address these questions, any more than we need any single definition of any other term in the language.  There will always be multiple definitions, and that&#039;s just fine; courts are used to figuring out whether a given definition is reasonable given typical usage elsewhere, etc.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to your final paragraph: The many definitions of adware are admittedly a bit dull to read.  But I&#8217;m not sure I see any problem sufficient to support your claim that &#8220;we would all beneift from consistent definitions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Symantec wants to show that its characterization of adware is accurate (number one on your very sensible five-bullet-point list).  For this purpose, it&#8217;s important both to establish what Symantec means when it uses the term (so we can then compare those behaviors to Hotbar&#8217;s actual behaviors) and what others mean when they use that term (to make sure Symantec&#8217;s use of the term isn&#8217;t somehow off-base).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that we need any single definition of &#8220;adware&#8221; in order to address these questions, any more than we need any single definition of any other term in the language.  There will always be multiple definitions, and that&#8217;s just fine; courts are used to figuring out whether a given definition is reasonable given typical usage elsewhere, etc.</p>
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		By: madisonian theory: on law, society, and technology		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2005 02:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;It&#039;s a Bird, It&#039;s a Plane, No . . .&lt;/strong&gt;

Thanks to Eric Goldman&#039;s exhaustive account of Symantec&#039;s preemptive strike against Hotbar (&quot;Is too adware&quot;; &quot;Is not&quot;; &quot;Is too&quot;), I can tease out a point about the Brand X opinion that I found noteworthy even if a lot of people found it distrac...

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>It&#8217;s a Bird, It&#8217;s a Plane, No . . .</strong></p>
<p>Thanks to Eric Goldman&#8217;s exhaustive account of Symantec&#8217;s preemptive strike against Hotbar (&#8220;Is too adware&#8221;; &#8220;Is not&#8221;; &#8220;Is too&#8221;), I can tease out a point about the Brand X opinion that I found noteworthy even if a lot of people found it distrac&#8230;</p>
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